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		<title>By: Brady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 13:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to: Michael Janzen ... &#039;Just a thought&#039; -? You, sir, out do yourself on quite a few levels! I&#039;ve got my reading cut out for me, and I thank you for that. Much thanks!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to: Michael Janzen &#8230; &#8216;Just a thought&#8217; -? You, sir, out do yourself on quite a few levels! I&#8217;ve got my reading cut out for me, and I thank you for that. Much thanks!!!</p>
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		<title>By: How Much Will You Spend?</title>
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		<dc:creator>How Much Will You Spend?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] people want a house on a permanent foundation. My friend Michael at the tinyhousedesign.com ran a similar survey and discovered that 40% of people wanted a 400 square foot small house. So the next [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] people want a house on a permanent foundation. My friend Michael at the tinyhousedesign.com ran a similar survey and discovered that 40% of people wanted a 400 square foot small house. So the next [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Janzen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Janzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 07:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brady... Just a thought... a few times while digging around building codes and zoning issues in California specifically I&#039;ve run across some laws that have been passed on ADUs (Accessory Dwelling Units) which are simply granny flats, in-law units, etc. 

I haven&#039;t posted a write up on this yet because I havn&#039;t found enough answers to form a solid opinion but it looks like some communities in California might be totally open to this kind of addition to an existing property. Other communities have made it really had to add these types of spaces and I suspect my next suggestion is exactly the reason why :-)

You see if homeowners could add an in-law unit to their backyard for grandma then why couldn&#039;t they also add one and then rent it out? 

By the same token why couldn&#039;t a home owner built a tiny house on a trailer, pull it into their backyard, take the wheels off, place it on a foundation, and get it permitted as an inlaw unit?

I&#039;m certain the issue for most communities is they don&#039;t want to see an explosion of apartments in people&#039;s backyards. But other communities seem to be more open and make it easier.

So here&#039;s the real suggestion... and I&#039;ll continue to do some digging too... find some nearby communities and counties that don&#039;t make it nearly impossible to add ADUs. Research the legal stuff and then begin looking for people who might like the idea of a little backyard house side rental income. Build a tiny house cheap and then move in.

This might at first sound like a long shot but I suspect that you might find a lot of people interested in the possibility. The logistics might be a little tough, but for someone determined and clever an inexpensive tiny house might actually have some real hope even in cost and zoning prohibitive  California.

Here are some links on the subject I&#039;ve found:

http://www.abag.ca.gov/planning/housingneeds/secondunits.html

http://www.housingpolicy.org/toolbox/strategy/policies/diverse_housing_types.html?tierid=42

http://www.transcoalition.org/ia/acssdwel/03.html

http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/01-02/bill/asm/ab_1851-1900/ab_1866_bill_20020929_chaptered.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brady&#8230; Just a thought&#8230; a few times while digging around building codes and zoning issues in California specifically I&#8217;ve run across some laws that have been passed on ADUs (Accessory Dwelling Units) which are simply granny flats, in-law units, etc. </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t posted a write up on this yet because I havn&#8217;t found enough answers to form a solid opinion but it looks like some communities in California might be totally open to this kind of addition to an existing property. Other communities have made it really had to add these types of spaces and I suspect my next suggestion is exactly the reason why <img src='http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You see if homeowners could add an in-law unit to their backyard for grandma then why couldn&#8217;t they also add one and then rent it out? </p>
<p>By the same token why couldn&#8217;t a home owner built a tiny house on a trailer, pull it into their backyard, take the wheels off, place it on a foundation, and get it permitted as an inlaw unit?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m certain the issue for most communities is they don&#8217;t want to see an explosion of apartments in people&#8217;s backyards. But other communities seem to be more open and make it easier.</p>
<p>So here&#8217;s the real suggestion&#8230; and I&#8217;ll continue to do some digging too&#8230; find some nearby communities and counties that don&#8217;t make it nearly impossible to add ADUs. Research the legal stuff and then begin looking for people who might like the idea of a little backyard house side rental income. Build a tiny house cheap and then move in.</p>
<p>This might at first sound like a long shot but I suspect that you might find a lot of people interested in the possibility. The logistics might be a little tough, but for someone determined and clever an inexpensive tiny house might actually have some real hope even in cost and zoning prohibitive  California.</p>
<p>Here are some links on the subject I&#8217;ve found:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.abag.ca.gov/planning/housingneeds/secondunits.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.abag.ca.gov/planning/housingneeds/secondunits.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.housingpolicy.org/toolbox/strategy/policies/diverse_housing_types.html?tierid=42" rel="nofollow">http://www.housingpolicy.org/toolbox/strategy/policies/diverse_housing_types.html?tierid=42</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.transcoalition.org/ia/acssdwel/03.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.transcoalition.org/ia/acssdwel/03.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/01-02/bill/asm/ab_1851-1900/ab_1866_bill_20020929_chaptered.html" rel="nofollow">http://info.sen.ca.gov/pub/01-02/bill/asm/ab_1851-1900/ab_1866_bill_20020929_chaptered.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 06:46:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, love your site! I have pretty much determined that for myself- with enough of a disability to make me fearful of depending on the ladder to the Tumbleweed&#039;s loft- that perhaps I should lean toward The Lusby with the downstairs bedroom and use the loft to relax in when I am awake and spry - or better yet, customize the ladder itself to make it feel safer for myself as I age.

However, I adore every aspect of the Micro Compact Home outside Moma which fits my lifetstyle better ie: no cooking and lots of modern touch: I work from home on the net. I&#039;d rather have a home like a Tumbleweed or a Tiny Texas, but hate the thought of sacrificing that much of my space to a kitchen or even one folksy touch.

My largest issue is living in California (which could be rephrased as &#039;feeling trapped in the Gay Ghetto&#039; based on my experiences elsewhere in the USA, sadly) where land is at a premium + pesky neighborhood codes. I&#039;m still hoping to be able to park in a friend&#039;s back yard someday, like that one woman in the Tumbleweed video. Also, as someone not quite 5&#039; tall, MANY of these are perfect for me! As soon as I can get the 20 extra bucks I am sending away for all the Tumbleweed plans- and one last thing? I love the weehouse concept, but here in hardcore urban areas, those wide open glass walls are just not even an option as far as safety.

Thanks so much for listening, I certainly do get lonely in my passions!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, love your site! I have pretty much determined that for myself- with enough of a disability to make me fearful of depending on the ladder to the Tumbleweed&#8217;s loft- that perhaps I should lean toward The Lusby with the downstairs bedroom and use the loft to relax in when I am awake and spry &#8211; or better yet, customize the ladder itself to make it feel safer for myself as I age.</p>
<p>However, I adore every aspect of the Micro Compact Home outside Moma which fits my lifetstyle better ie: no cooking and lots of modern touch: I work from home on the net. I&#8217;d rather have a home like a Tumbleweed or a Tiny Texas, but hate the thought of sacrificing that much of my space to a kitchen or even one folksy touch.</p>
<p>My largest issue is living in California (which could be rephrased as &#8216;feeling trapped in the Gay Ghetto&#8217; based on my experiences elsewhere in the USA, sadly) where land is at a premium + pesky neighborhood codes. I&#8217;m still hoping to be able to park in a friend&#8217;s back yard someday, like that one woman in the Tumbleweed video. Also, as someone not quite 5&#8242; tall, MANY of these are perfect for me! As soon as I can get the 20 extra bucks I am sending away for all the Tumbleweed plans- and one last thing? I love the weehouse concept, but here in hardcore urban areas, those wide open glass walls are just not even an option as far as safety.</p>
<p>Thanks so much for listening, I certainly do get lonely in my passions!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Janzen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Janzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 05:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks EJ. I think you actually point out the elusive issue which is... how much space to people really need depending on their needs. I&#039;m pretty sure there&#039;s no way to put a mathematical equation to it since there are so many variables. 

Which leads me to then speculate on the true value of tiny house design and tiny houses in general... which I&#039;m beginning to believe is really how well they illustrate how little or much we need. They help us see our homes through different eyes and help us question what we need and want. At least that&#039;s what it does for me.

My current home, which I&#039;m essentially stuck in, feels like a nice size, maybe a little bigger than we need, but I know for certain its more than I want to take care of, and it takes a lot more of my time than I expected. Exploring tiny living is helping me design my true dream home, one Julia, Katie and I would be happy in for many years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks EJ. I think you actually point out the elusive issue which is&#8230; how much space to people really need depending on their needs. I&#8217;m pretty sure there&#8217;s no way to put a mathematical equation to it since there are so many variables. </p>
<p>Which leads me to then speculate on the true value of tiny house design and tiny houses in general&#8230; which I&#8217;m beginning to believe is really how well they illustrate how little or much we need. They help us see our homes through different eyes and help us question what we need and want. At least that&#8217;s what it does for me.</p>
<p>My current home, which I&#8217;m essentially stuck in, feels like a nice size, maybe a little bigger than we need, but I know for certain its more than I want to take care of, and it takes a lot more of my time than I expected. Exploring tiny living is helping me design my true dream home, one Julia, Katie and I would be happy in for many years.</p>
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		<title>By: EJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>EJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 04:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I voted quite differently in your polls - first one, thinking of tiny retreat type space. Second time considering of two people who both work from home offices with a kitchen large enough to do a fair bit of food processing and room to store garden harvest for at least 6 months. Plus a climate with 4 definite seasons and a large dog. This still leaves the question of what do with occasional guests and relatives who come to stay for weeks at a time....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I voted quite differently in your polls &#8211; first one, thinking of tiny retreat type space. Second time considering of two people who both work from home offices with a kitchen large enough to do a fair bit of food processing and room to store garden harvest for at least 6 months. Plus a climate with 4 definite seasons and a large dog. This still leaves the question of what do with occasional guests and relatives who come to stay for weeks at a time&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Janzen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Janzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree... but people seemed to want bigger... now we know not that big. Along that note I don&#039;t think of 700 sq ft as tiny either and that seems like a popular number. For a family of 3, 4, or 5 I can see 700 being a good number though. In any event interesting results huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree&#8230; but people seemed to want bigger&#8230; now we know not that big. Along that note I don&#8217;t think of 700 sq ft as tiny either and that seems like a popular number. For a family of 3, 4, or 5 I can see 700 being a good number though. In any event interesting results huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Kent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm... I live in a 1200 sq ft home including the garage. Never really considered it tiny, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; I live in a 1200 sq ft home including the garage. Never really considered it tiny, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Janzen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Janzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks Lindsay! That reminds me of a neighbor that named his dog Dee Oh Gee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks Lindsay! That reminds me of a neighbor that named his dog Dee Oh Gee</p>
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		<title>By: Kent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It stands for &quot;Not So Tiny,&quot; part of Jay&#039;s larger home collection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It stands for &#8220;Not So Tiny,&#8221; part of Jay&#8217;s larger home collection.</p>
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