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Rainwater Collection and Nine Tiny Feet

by Michael Janzen on June 29, 2009

I spent the better part of last week traveling to Los Angeles. Visiting that town always makes me think about sustainability and self-sufficiency because the whole place seems so dependent on outside natural resources; although you could probably say that about most big cities. As we drove up and down Interstate-5 past all the dried up farms I couldn’t help but think about how much rainwater my nine square foot concept house could actually capture.

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I came up with this slight refinement to the previous design which has a larger single roof surface that spans the interior space, porch, and bay windows. This roof is about 50 square feet and if my math is right this roof would collect about 425 gallons of water per year here in Sacramento, California. An inch of rain on a square foot of roof is good for collecting a half gallon of water. Here in Sacramento we get about 17 or 18 inches of rain each year. So correct me if I’m wrong by 17 x 50 / 2 = 425 gallons of water per year. The water tank in the illustration is 500 gallons.

You may also notice I took the house off the trailer for this illustration. I still plan to someday built this tiny house on a trailer but it seemed that for this iteration it made more sense to leave it out since a 500 gallon water tank would weigh over two tons. Yeah yikes.

The good news is that 425 gallons of water a year would keep one person alive and relatively clean. I’m pretty sure there would not be enough water left over to grow any food except for the few plants that could use the grey water from the sink and shower.

Anyway it’s nice to be back home again, drawing, dreaming, and blogging. Traveling is not one of my favorite things to do. For those of you who enjoy tinkering with Google SketchUp, here is the original file for you to explore. Enjoy!

Nine Tiny Feet – Google SketchUp File

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View Comments to “Rainwater Collection and Nine Tiny Feet”

  1. Stephen Gatlin Ph.D. says:

    This is a beautiful job for a rain collector. Frankly, I’m amazed that this small a surface could produce enough water to be really useful–as in self-sufficiency. For the latter, one would presumably have to have a much larger collector area, depending on the location.

  2. SteveR says:

    Hi Michael,
    Certainly an interesting concept taken to the extreme. I don’t doubt your calculations but wonder if you would really need a 500 gallon collector if you only receive 425 gallons over an entire year. Assuming you don’t receive it all at one ( I could be wrong, I believe CA gets most of its rain in the winter ). If 425 is close to what 1 person needs for a year, I imagine you would be constantly running near empty so you could probably get away with a plastic rain barrel, maybe 50 gallons max. That might return it to being portable again.

    Nice to see the posts again. Welcome home.

    Steve

  3. Grant Wagner says:

    Howdy Michael,

    It’s a nice change, and a single person grey water system should be more than plenty for a small planter box like the one you have there. Many people who have learned to kick the “grid” water, often learn that they can live on a gallon a day, including staying clean.

    I also noticed that you moved the solar panel to the south wall, effectively completely covering it. You should think about putting it somewhere else. With such a small space, passive solar heating can go a very, very long way, but it’s that much more important to get it right.

    On a side note, I’ve started playing with google sketch up. I’m working on my own tiny house drawing as well. I think, once again, my wife hates you :D .

  4. SteveR… I bet you’re right about the water tank size. But it’s interesting to see the amount of water visually. It is interesting to note that this water ration is what is recommended for minimum survival. Depending on who you ask most American’s use between 80 to 100 gallons of water a day, not the 1+ gallon I have estimated here.

    Grant… I forgot to change the solar panel placement. LOL about your wife. Maybe I can talk Julia (my wife) into starting a support group for significant-others. :-)

  5. Tim R says:

    What about a inexpensive means to increase the rainwater collection area? Maybe using sheet plastic, tarps, or water repellent fabric to collect the water and direct it onto the roof. The outer ends of these sheets could be elevated by something like PVC pipe so that the water would flow onto the roof. It would look like awnings extending out from the house except that the outer ends would be higher than the roof. You could probably double or triple the amount of water captured with minimal expense. Any ideas?

  6. Good thinking Tim. The only issues that pop into my brain is wind and long-term resistance to weathering. The frame that holds the material would probably need to be fairly strong to hold up to high winds and the awning material would need to be good enough to last for a few years at least. It would make the house more portable though and provide more water to make it through dry spells.

  7. Dusty says:

    With the solar panels what is a option if you are planing on having be portable is that there is no reason they can’t just be detached from the living area and this is also a good idea because then you don’t always have to park with the south wall pointing south as situations permit and with triple pane glass the amount of passive heating this thing would gain would be amazing. but you also want to disconnect your solar panels because depending on your latitude you want to have your panels at different angles and right now they are set up steep enough that unless you would be super far north they would collect very little energy.You also might have the right idea keeping the south wall un-windowed because with windows on all sides in the summer that thing would get incredibly hot and being able to turn one side that didn’t gain as much passive energy might be good and the less windows the better it would hold its heat in the wintertime, especially at night, making it more efficient to heat. this is also why I say use triple pane glass because with every added pane in windows the r rating doubles single pane = R-1, Double pane = R-2, triple pane = R-3+

  8. Dusty says:

    triple pane glass is actually R-4 insulation rating. Sorry

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  10. roof says:

    It is just your thought I think so, since only nine tiny feet just to collect rain water is not a good idea. It must be properly planned and executed for complete home rather than nine feet only.

    From:Roof

  11. Michael King says:

    why not locate the composting toilet outside on the veranda and have a canvas screen that can be pulled around when needed, that would free up some space inside and besides, I don’t like the idea of sleeping over the toilet!!

    • Good point Michael… but since the whole idea is a bit extreme I’m not sure there’s much for it :-)

      The toilet (bucket) will be removable so it if got too back in there it could be set outside.

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