Comments on: Immediate Action Needed to Help the Homeless http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/2009/09/04/immediate-action-needed-to-help-the-homeless/ more attainable & sustainable Sat, 11 Feb 2012 16:19:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Pat Bishop http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/2009/09/04/immediate-action-needed-to-help-the-homeless/comment-page-1/#comment-24318 Pat Bishop Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:24:50 +0000 http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/?p=2671#comment-24318 I have all the comments on this subject, I must say very harshly, that some people do not know what they are talking about. Now that was my two cents. I know what it is to be homeless, I know what it is for people to think that you do not count, I know people think of me as some type of person that has been or will be in trouble with the law, I know people think of me as eye sore, but lets stop there has anyone stop I mean really stop and look at a homeless person up close and get to know them one on one and why they are homeless. My friends let me tell you this I have been on the streets of Fort Worth Tx homeless and I see it from a different way. Mike your idea is a good one I know that it is not a permanent solution to homelessnes but it is nice to know that someone cares. peoples associate homelessness with drugs or alcohol but today it is a different breed, yes those factors are still out there but the people I know that are homeless has nothing to do with what I mentioned. So I ask you before you look down or have bad thoughts about someone who you see is homeless put yourself in their shoes and walk the miles they have walked believe me it would change your attitude and your way of thinking. Mike I want to say God Bless you as you pursuse your idea for the homeless in your area, it is people like you that gives me the strength to go on and try my best to get off the street. Thanks Pat I have all the comments on this subject, I must say very harshly, that some people do not know what they are talking about.

Now that was my two cents. I know what it is to be homeless, I know what it is for people to think that you do not count, I know people think of me as some type of person that has been or will be in trouble with the law, I know people think of me as eye sore, but lets stop there has anyone stop I mean really stop and look at a homeless person up close and get to know them one on one and why they are homeless.

My friends let me tell you this I have been on the streets of Fort Worth Tx homeless and I see it from a different way.

Mike your idea is a good one I know that it is not a permanent solution to homelessnes but it is nice to know that someone cares.

peoples associate homelessness with drugs or alcohol but today it is a different breed, yes those factors are still out there but the people I know that are homeless has nothing to do with what I mentioned.
So I ask you before you look down or have bad thoughts about someone who you see is homeless put yourself in their shoes and walk the miles they have walked believe me it would change your attitude and your way of thinking.

Mike I want to say God Bless you as you pursuse your idea for the homeless in your area, it is people like you that gives me the strength to go on and try my best to get off the street.

Thanks
Pat

]]> By: Tiny House Design , Archive » Tiny House Panel System – Update http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/2009/09/04/immediate-action-needed-to-help-the-homeless/comment-page-1/#comment-2848 Tiny House Design , Archive » Tiny House Panel System – Update Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:31:41 +0000 http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/?p=2671#comment-2848 [...] design began as an idea to meet a need for sheltering the homeless but with a lot of great input from readers I’ve been able to refine it into a system that [...] [...] design began as an idea to meet a need for sheltering the homeless but with a lot of great input from readers I’ve been able to refine it into a system that [...]

]]> By: Walt Barrett http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/2009/09/04/immediate-action-needed-to-help-the-homeless/comment-page-1/#comment-2707 Walt Barrett Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:08:48 +0000 http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/?p=2671#comment-2707 The problem is that many local politicians couldn't run a lemonade stand without losing millions, and they will not listen to reason because it intrudes on their power trips. What we look at as pure common sense makes no sense to them at all. Our property taxes keep going up, and things just keep getting worse instead of better. Our government is too busy meddling in the rest of the world to take care of business at home. If we ran our businesses the way that the government runs we would be bankrupt in a week! It is time the government started paying more attention to our own problems at home. I think it is going to get worse, not better, and I think it is going to get very ugly down the line. Our government is making all the wrong moves in the area of our own domestic problems, and the only people that are benefiting is big business. Congress and local politicians are bought and paid for - either party. Don't kid yourselves. If you want change, insist on no more campaign contributions which are just a legal form of bribery and vote the useless people that are mishandling our affairs out of office. Personally, I feel that we have all been sold out. Why else would we have homeless camps in the first place? I didn't serve in the Korean war to end up by being forced out of my home by ridiculous property taxes imposed by a bunch of white collar criminals that are feathering their own nests by giving out needless jobs to buy votes, and looking the other way while "investment councilors" steal our life savings in crooked stock market schemes! Don't depend on the government to solve the homeless problem. We have to do it ourselves. The problem is that many local politicians couldn’t run a lemonade stand without losing millions, and they will not listen to reason because it intrudes on their power trips. What we look at as pure common sense makes no sense to them at all. Our property taxes keep going up, and things just keep getting worse instead of better. Our government is too busy meddling in the rest of the world to take care of business at home. If we ran our businesses the way that the government runs we would be bankrupt in a week!
It is time the government started paying more attention to our own problems at home. I think it is going to get worse, not better, and I think it is going to get very ugly down the line. Our government is making all the wrong moves in the area of our own domestic problems, and the only people that are benefiting is big business. Congress and local politicians are bought and paid for – either party. Don’t kid yourselves. If you want change, insist on no more campaign contributions which are just a legal form of bribery and vote the useless people that are mishandling our affairs out of office. Personally, I feel that we have all been sold out. Why else would we have homeless camps in the first place? I didn’t serve in the Korean war to end up by being forced out of my home by ridiculous property taxes imposed by a bunch of white collar criminals that are feathering their own nests by giving out needless jobs to buy votes, and looking the other way while “investment councilors” steal our life savings in crooked stock market schemes!
Don’t depend on the government to solve the homeless problem. We have to do it ourselves.

]]> By: Tiny House Design , Archive » Simple Panelized Shelter http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/2009/09/04/immediate-action-needed-to-help-the-homeless/comment-page-1/#comment-2706 Tiny House Design , Archive » Simple Panelized Shelter Sat, 05 Sep 2009 05:27:42 +0000 http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/?p=2671#comment-2706 [...] homeless, hut, panel, prefab, shed, shelter, sketchup Add a Comment I realize that passionate posts on solving homelessness is a little off topic for Tiny House Design but it’s a topic that seems to need more public [...] [...] homeless, hut, panel, prefab, shed, shelter, sketchup Add a Comment I realize that passionate posts on solving homelessness is a little off topic for Tiny House Design but it’s a topic that seems to need more public [...]

]]> By: Julia Janzen http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/2009/09/04/immediate-action-needed-to-help-the-homeless/comment-page-1/#comment-2704 Julia Janzen Fri, 04 Sep 2009 23:35:57 +0000 http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/?p=2671#comment-2704 What I like about what you wrote is that it is focused on brainstorming solutions that COULD work not just to give up and say, "Oh that will never work because..." Let's put our collective thinking caps on and figure out what can work. It's also important to realize that solutions are more of an organic thing that need to change and grow. What bothers me greatly is how the mayor and police are only compounding the problem and wasting valuable police resources by arresting nuns, retired ministers and people unfortunate enough to not have homes. What I like about what you wrote is that it is focused on brainstorming solutions that COULD work not just to give up and say, “Oh that will never work because…” Let’s put our collective thinking caps on and figure out what can work. It’s also important to realize that solutions are more of an organic thing that need to change and grow.

What bothers me greatly is how the mayor and police are only compounding the problem and wasting valuable police resources by arresting nuns, retired ministers and people unfortunate enough to not have homes.

]]> By: Michael Janzen http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/2009/09/04/immediate-action-needed-to-help-the-homeless/comment-page-1/#comment-2703 Michael Janzen Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:19:43 +0000 http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/?p=2671#comment-2703 Thanks Jane. We will be sure to put this idea under the nose of our local press. I think the buzz is increasing. I just noticed a spike in traffic :-) BTW... looking forward to meeting you in person when you head out this way while on your road trip! Thanks Jane.

We will be sure to put this idea under the nose of our local press. I think the buzz is increasing. I just noticed a spike in traffic :-)

BTW… looking forward to meeting you in person when you head out this way while on your road trip!

]]> By: Jane http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/2009/09/04/immediate-action-needed-to-help-the-homeless/comment-page-1/#comment-2702 Jane Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:14:22 +0000 http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/?p=2671#comment-2702 Michael, I think the idea of permits for private landowners would force the city's hand nicely. Right now, they destroy the encampments out of "concern" for such broad issues as public safety. So if they had legal permits, and oversight, and the communities were generally self-policing, what argument could they then make? The fact of the matter is not that the homeless have been terribly disruptive or ill-behaved, but much like the commenter above said, they bring up the "not in my backyard" issue. And actually, this is a fairly new phenomena. Up through the late 1950's, private landowners often did open their farms and fields to those who traveled on foot for logging and farm jobs. There were several such encampments in MN, and the men who used them paid a small fee for things like breakfast and soap, but sleeping was free. I hope you get this idea off to the Sac Bee and others. Michael, I think the idea of permits for private landowners would force the city’s hand nicely. Right now, they destroy the encampments out of “concern” for such broad issues as public safety. So if they had legal permits, and oversight, and the communities were generally self-policing, what argument could they then make?

The fact of the matter is not that the homeless have been terribly disruptive or ill-behaved, but much like the commenter above said, they bring up the “not in my backyard” issue.

And actually, this is a fairly new phenomena. Up through the late 1950′s, private landowners often did open their farms and fields to those who traveled on foot for logging and farm jobs. There were several such encampments in MN, and the men who used them paid a small fee for things like breakfast and soap, but sleeping was free.

I hope you get this idea off to the Sac Bee and others.

]]> By: Michael Janzen http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/2009/09/04/immediate-action-needed-to-help-the-homeless/comment-page-1/#comment-2701 Michael Janzen Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:10:26 +0000 http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/?p=2671#comment-2701 Good point Uncle... I agree there are multiple solutions needed, like more low cost permanent housing solutions. I'm simply suggesting that temporary tent cities should be made safer and legal. Good point Uncle… I agree there are multiple solutions needed, like more low cost permanent housing solutions. I’m simply suggesting that temporary tent cities should be made safer and legal.

]]> By: Uncle S http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/2009/09/04/immediate-action-needed-to-help-the-homeless/comment-page-1/#comment-2700 Uncle S Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:07:37 +0000 http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/?p=2671#comment-2700 So, what happens when the 'Emergency Habitat" permit expires? Since its an emergency permit, I'm inferring that means temporary. There will always be poor people. There will always be people who are unable to take care of themselves. Just because you put people in a shack issues like endemic poverty, substance abuse, and mental illness aren't going to go away. Can you imagine the nightmare images on bloviation outlets Fox or Daily Kos when they have to evict people from their vermin infested, feces polluted shanties? What will you do with the people? Ship them off to the Soylent Factory? So, what happens when the ‘Emergency Habitat” permit expires? Since its an emergency permit, I’m inferring that means temporary.

There will always be poor people. There will always be people who are unable to take care of themselves. Just because you put people in a shack issues like endemic poverty, substance abuse, and mental illness aren’t going to go away.

Can you imagine the nightmare images on bloviation outlets Fox or Daily Kos when they have to evict people from their vermin infested, feces polluted shanties? What will you do with the people? Ship them off to the Soylent Factory?

]]> By: Michael Janzen http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/2009/09/04/immediate-action-needed-to-help-the-homeless/comment-page-1/#comment-2699 Michael Janzen Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:05:24 +0000 http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/?p=2671#comment-2699 Brian... thanks for the link to Dignity Village! Nice to see success stories like that. Brian… thanks for the link to Dignity Village! Nice to see success stories like that.

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