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		<title>By: Michael Janzen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Janzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 20:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great find Dave... thanks for the link!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great find Dave&#8230; thanks for the link!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/2009/09/04/simple-panelized-shelter/comment-page-1/#comment-2779</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found the plans for the shed I mentioned in my previous post online (it was Pop. Sci., not Mechanics...):
http://books.google.com/books?id=BQEMDqBjzHwC&amp;pg=PA84&amp;lpg=PA84&amp;dq=living+cube+lester+walker&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=SmdhO2erOx&amp;sig=_Dx276hFU6WnDhbSIzLkEMcQXDM&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=-DexSp3dF4T8tgfgt_mVCA&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=1#v=onepage&amp;q=living%20cube%20lester%20walker&amp;f=false

It includes a lot of detail, including materials lists and panel attachment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found the plans for the shed I mentioned in my previous post online (it was Pop. Sci., not Mechanics&#8230;):<br />
<a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=BQEMDqBjzHwC&#038;pg=PA84&#038;lpg=PA84&#038;dq=living+cube+lester+walker&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=SmdhO2erOx&#038;sig=_Dx276hFU6WnDhbSIzLkEMcQXDM&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=-DexSp3dF4T8tgfgt_mVCA&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=1#v=onepage&#038;q=living%20cube%20lester%20walker&#038;f=false" rel="nofollow">http://books.google.com/books?id=BQEMDqBjzHwC&#038;pg=PA84&#038;lpg=PA84&#038;dq=living+cube+lester+walker&#038;source=bl&#038;ots=SmdhO2erOx&#038;sig=_Dx276hFU6WnDhbSIzLkEMcQXDM&#038;hl=en&#038;ei=-DexSp3dF4T8tgfgt_mVCA&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=book_result&#038;ct=result&#038;resnum=1#v=onepage&#038;q=living%20cube%20lester%20walker&#038;f=false</a></p>
<p>It includes a lot of detail, including materials lists and panel attachment.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Janzen</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/2009/09/04/simple-panelized-shelter/comment-page-1/#comment-2768</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Janzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 02:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul... sure I think salvaged material could be used. It just get a little harder to build like I&#039;m learning first hand on the tiny free house (http://www.tinyfreehouse.com)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul&#8230; sure I think salvaged material could be used. It just get a little harder to build like I&#8217;m learning first hand on the tiny free house (<a href="http://www.tinyfreehouse.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.tinyfreehouse.com</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: paul lunemann</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/2009/09/04/simple-panelized-shelter/comment-page-1/#comment-2767</link>
		<dc:creator>paul lunemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 01:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>could salvaged materiles also used?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>could salvaged materiles also used?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Janzen</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/2009/09/04/simple-panelized-shelter/comment-page-1/#comment-2758</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Janzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Malcolm.

There is a wall down the center to support the ceiling/loft floor. It&#039;s open on the window (solar) side using a built-up post and beam to allow a more open floor plan.

I&#039;m open to any panel attachment ideas. I&#039;ve got 5 methods on mind now that I will include in the plans so the builder can choose. I think one of them is similar to what you&#039;re suggesting (SIP connectors).

It will be insulated. Good thinking on the reflective foil insulation. 

Thanks for the good thoughts. It&#039;s really great to have this level of input from the community. More heads are better than one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Malcolm.</p>
<p>There is a wall down the center to support the ceiling/loft floor. It&#8217;s open on the window (solar) side using a built-up post and beam to allow a more open floor plan.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m open to any panel attachment ideas. I&#8217;ve got 5 methods on mind now that I will include in the plans so the builder can choose. I think one of them is similar to what you&#8217;re suggesting (SIP connectors).</p>
<p>It will be insulated. Good thinking on the reflective foil insulation. </p>
<p>Thanks for the good thoughts. It&#8217;s really great to have this level of input from the community. More heads are better than one.</p>
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		<title>By: Malcolm White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malcolm White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 05:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

For your 16&#039; x 16&#039; design how are you dealing with the support for the second floor? Without seeing the full framework I can not tell. It seems like the way your layout is setup that you would have to be spanning 16&#039; with the floor joists of the second level which is pretty far if you are just using 4x4 framing.

How are you dealing with fastening your panels together? They seem to be sheathed on both sides which makes it hard to attach them together with simple bolts unless the sheathing is removable. There are types of fasteners that can be used to attach closed panels together but they would add somewhat more to the costs of the structure than simple bolts would. One fairly simple approach is to use ordinary door hinges at the joints and attach the panels by inserting the pins into the hinges. You have to be pretty careful with the alignment of the hinges when the panels are built though. Please let me know if you want some information about sources of blind fasteners for panels.

Are you anticipating adding insulation to your panels? If these will be used primarily in a hot climate I would suggest that you consider using reflective foil insulation. This should be very effective at blocking radiant energy from the sun. If you are not planning to add insulation then I suggest that you consider leaving off the inner sheathing. This will save money, make the panels lighter for moving and will allow easier assembly with bolts.

Malcolm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>For your 16&#8242; x 16&#8242; design how are you dealing with the support for the second floor? Without seeing the full framework I can not tell. It seems like the way your layout is setup that you would have to be spanning 16&#8242; with the floor joists of the second level which is pretty far if you are just using 4&#215;4 framing.</p>
<p>How are you dealing with fastening your panels together? They seem to be sheathed on both sides which makes it hard to attach them together with simple bolts unless the sheathing is removable. There are types of fasteners that can be used to attach closed panels together but they would add somewhat more to the costs of the structure than simple bolts would. One fairly simple approach is to use ordinary door hinges at the joints and attach the panels by inserting the pins into the hinges. You have to be pretty careful with the alignment of the hinges when the panels are built though. Please let me know if you want some information about sources of blind fasteners for panels.</p>
<p>Are you anticipating adding insulation to your panels? If these will be used primarily in a hot climate I would suggest that you consider using reflective foil insulation. This should be very effective at blocking radiant energy from the sun. If you are not planning to add insulation then I suggest that you consider leaving off the inner sheathing. This will save money, make the panels lighter for moving and will allow easier assembly with bolts.</p>
<p>Malcolm</p>
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		<title>By: Tiny House Design , Archive &#187; A House for Khayelitsha &#8211; Update</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/2009/09/04/simple-panelized-shelter/comment-page-1/#comment-2744</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiny House Design , Archive &#187; A House for Khayelitsha &#8211; Update</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of different homes could be built using the same (or similar) parts. I&#8217;ll also redraw the Simple Panelized Shelter that got this latest round of design concepts [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of different homes could be built using the same (or similar) parts. I&#8217;ll also redraw the Simple Panelized Shelter that got this latest round of design concepts [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tiny House Living , Archive &#187; A House For Khayelitsha</title>
		<link>http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/2009/09/04/simple-panelized-shelter/comment-page-1/#comment-2728</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiny House Living , Archive &#187; A House For Khayelitsha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;m now in the process of designing a tiny panelized house that is four times larger than the homeless shelter I designed last week. It will measure 16&#8242; by 16&#8242; (5m by 5m) and be made of 4&#8242; by 8&#8242; panels. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;m now in the process of designing a tiny panelized house that is four times larger than the homeless shelter I designed last week. It will measure 16&#8242; by 16&#8242; (5m by 5m) and be made of 4&#8242; by 8&#8242; panels. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Janzen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Janzen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Dave. Ironically I&#039;m adapting this design to meet the requirements you just described. I should have the details worked out soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dave. Ironically I&#8217;m adapting this design to meet the requirements you just described. I should have the details worked out soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 14:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been intrigued by the idea of panelized construction for a while. I have an old Popular Mechanics project book from the 70&#039;s that has plans for a panelized &quot;shed&quot; for camping etc. I have always wanted to expand on that with the idea of creating a &quot;real&quot; house, that can be pre-fabbed (say in the back yard where I&#039;m renting), then put together very quickly if I find a suitable lot for purchase (or even a rentable lot?).

I&#039;m drawn to the idea of clusters that could be &quot;connected&quot; or even quickly reconfigured by adding/swapping panels. Obviously quite a few issues to be worked out, but glad to see someone else thinking about panelized construction (and yes - 4x8 is the way to go...).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been intrigued by the idea of panelized construction for a while. I have an old Popular Mechanics project book from the 70&#8242;s that has plans for a panelized &#8220;shed&#8221; for camping etc. I have always wanted to expand on that with the idea of creating a &#8220;real&#8221; house, that can be pre-fabbed (say in the back yard where I&#8217;m renting), then put together very quickly if I find a suitable lot for purchase (or even a rentable lot?).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m drawn to the idea of clusters that could be &#8220;connected&#8221; or even quickly reconfigured by adding/swapping panels. Obviously quite a few issues to be worked out, but glad to see someone else thinking about panelized construction (and yes &#8211; 4&#215;8 is the way to go&#8230;).</p>
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